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Showing posts with label 9/11 investigation. Show all posts
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Saudi government allegedly funded a ‘dry run’ for 9/11
New York Post
September 14, 2017
September 14, 2017
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| Suspicious in-flight activity by Saudis in the US two years before 9/11 is fueling a suit against the Riyadh government.Getty Images |
Fresh evidence submitted in a major 9/11 lawsuit moving forward against the Saudi Arabian government reveals its embassy in Washington may have funded a “dry run” for the hijackings carried out by two Saudi employees, further reinforcing the claim that employees and agents of the kingdom directed and aided the 9/11 hijackers and plotters.
Two years before the airliner attacks, the Saudi Embassy paid for two Saudi nationals, living undercover in the US as students, to fly from Phoenix to Washington “in a dry run for the 9/11 attacks,” alleges the amended complaint filed on behalf of the families of some 1,400 victims who died in the terrorist attacks 16 years ago.
The court filing provides new details that paint “a pattern of both financial and operational support” for the 9/11 conspiracy from official Saudi sources, lawyers for the plaintiffs say. In fact, the Saudi government may have been involved in underwriting the attacks from the earliest stages — including testing cockpit security.
“We’ve long asserted that there were longstanding and close relationships between al Qaeda and the religious components of the Saudi government,” said Sean Carter, the lead attorney for the 9/11 plaintiffs. “This is further evidence of that.”
Video: 9/11 and the Global War on Terrorism: Michel Chossudovsky on GRTV
Global Research
October 31, 2016
October 31, 2016
As we reach the 15th anniversary of 9/11, the establishment is attempting to derail 9/11 truth with disinformation about Saudi Arabia.
But as Prof Michel Chossudovsky of Global Research points out, if we ever hope to derail the never-ending war on terror, we must be absolutely clear that neither Al Qaeda nor Saudi Arabia could have pulled off the attacks of that day.
“The tragic events of September 11, 2001 constitute a fundamental landmark in American history, a decisive watershed, a breaking point.
Millions of people have been misled regarding the causes and consequences of 9/11.
9/11 marks the onslaught of the “Global War on Terrorism” (GWOT), used as a pretext and a justification by the US and its NATO allies to carry out a “war without borders”, a global war of conquest.
A far-reaching overhaul of US military doctrine was launched in the wake of 9/11.
9/11 was also a stepping stone towards the relentless repeal of civil liberties, the militarization of law enforcement and the inauguration of “Police State USA”.
Michel Chossudovsky, 15 Years later, September 10, 2016
GRTV Video produced by James Corbett
The original source of this article is Global Research
Copyright © Prof Michel Chossudovsky and James Corbett, Global Research, 2016
From Anthrax to Iraq
Corbett Report
October 25, 2016
SHOW NOTES AND MP3: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=20220
Robbie Martin of AVeryHeavyAgenda.com joins us to talk about his research into the anthrax attacks of 2001. We discuss how false information claiming an Iraqi link to the attacks was sowed via the mainstream media and how the story largely disappeared when the anthrax traced back to the US government's own bioweapons labs. We also update the case and talk about some of the legitimate suspects in the attacks.
October 25, 2016
SHOW NOTES AND MP3: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=20220
Robbie Martin of AVeryHeavyAgenda.com joins us to talk about his research into the anthrax attacks of 2001. We discuss how false information claiming an Iraqi link to the attacks was sowed via the mainstream media and how the story largely disappeared when the anthrax traced back to the US government's own bioweapons labs. We also update the case and talk about some of the legitimate suspects in the attacks.
It’s Official: European Scientific Journal Concludes 9/11 was a Controlled Demolition
Educateinspirechange
October 9, 2016
October 9, 2016
15-years after the attacks on September 11th, the European Scientific Journal, a publication of theEuropean Scientific Institute (ESI), published an article titled “15 Years Later: On the Physics of High-Rise Building Collapses,” in which they analyze the collapse of all three World Trade Center buildings. The results of their findings continue to indicate that the WTC towers were destroyed by controlled demolition, and the fact that this controversial topic was covered by a publication that boasts aneditorial committee from reputable colleges and universities around the world (despite the article’s disclaimer), can be considered yet another small victory for 9/11 Truthers.
The study was written in collaboration by Steven Jones of Brigham Young University (now retired), Robert Korol of McMaster University – a Mechanical Design Engineer in the aerospace industry, Anthony Szamboti, and Ted Walter of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. The highly-sourced study breaks down the scientific evidence while revealing the discrepancies in NIST’s official report, and we suggest our readers – especially the skeptics – read it in its entirety.
One of the most important testimonies on the collapse of the World Trade Towers that was brought to attention in the study comes from the head structural engineer of the towers, John Skilling. It is apparently not enough for skeptics to take the findings of thousands of architects and engineersseriously, but should a skeptic choose not to at least consider the expertise of one of the men who built the WTC towers, then they are purposefully remaining blind.
Every sort of catastrophe that can happen to a high-rise building has to be taken into consideration during the design and construction processes, including the impact of an airplane. According to a 1993report from The Seattle Times, the Trade Towers were analyzed years ago, after concern was raised over a case where an airplane hit the Empire State Building. It was concluded at the time that the Trade Towers could withstand the impact of a Boeing 707.
In a statement made to The Seattle Times by Skilling:
“We looked at every possible thing we could think of that could happen to the buildings, even to the extent of an airplane hitting the side, however back in those days people didn’t think about terrorists very much.” He continues, “Our analysis indicated the biggest problem would be the fact that all the fuel (from the airplane)would dump into the building. There would be a horrendous fire. A lot of people would be killed. The building structure would still be there. However, I’m not saying that properly applied explosives – shaped explosives – of that magnitude could not do a tremendous amount of damage. I would imagine that if you took the top expert in that type of work and gave him the assignment of bringing these buildings down with explosives, I would bet that he could do it.”
NEW ALLEGATIONS RENEW OLD QUESTIONS ABOUT SAUDI ARABIA, 9-11
AP News
February 7, 2015
February 7, 2015
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For years, some current and former American officials have been urging President Barack Obama to release secret files they say document links between the government of Saudi Arabia and the Sept. 11 attacks.
Other officials, including the executive director of the Sept. 11 commission, have said the classified documents do not prove that the Saudi government knew about or financed the 2001 terrorist attacks, and that making the material public would serve no purpose.
Now, unsubstantiated court testimony by Zacharias Moussaoui, a former al-Qaida member serving life in federal prison, has renewed the push by those who want a closer look into whether there was official Saudi involvement with al-Qaida and the Sept. 11 hijackers. They say it should start with the release of 28 pages relating to Saudi Arabia from a joint congressional inquiry into the attacks.
“We owe the families a full accounting,” said Rep. Stephen Lynch of Massachusetts, a Democrat who has read the classified pages written in 2002.
RT News' "Truth Seeker " segment Covers 9/11 Coverup
RT News
July 8, 2014
The Truth Seeker talks with several experts concerning the coverup of substantial evidence which leads to state sponsored complicity in the 9/11 attacks.
July 8, 2014
The Truth Seeker talks with several experts concerning the coverup of substantial evidence which leads to state sponsored complicity in the 9/11 attacks.
AE911Truth Teams Sweep Through Capitol Hill
A&E for 9/11 Truth
January 5, 2014
As the sun sets in Washington DC – let us not lose faith in the latent power of the American people to awaken and force their elected representatives to deal with the actual crimes of 9/11.
Read the entire articleWe reported back in October that we were Encouraging the Senate to ReThink 911 when we visited them during our September Action of the Month. We detailed Pamela Senzee’s visit with Ben Sundholm, Legislative Correspondent for Senator Jeff Flake (R-AZ). In this article we highlight the other actions we took to educate members of Congress while we were in Washington.
January 5, 2014
AE911Truth Teams Sweep Through Capitol Hill
Read the entire articleWe reported back in October that we were Encouraging the Senate to ReThink 911 when we visited them during our September Action of the Month. We detailed Pamela Senzee’s visit with Ben Sundholm, Legislative Correspondent for Senator Jeff Flake (R-AZ). In this article we highlight the other actions we took to educate members of Congress while we were in Washington.
Wayne Coste, P.E., visited several Congressional offices the week before the DC911Truth Conference. We then invited conference attendees to join us in visiting their members of Congress. AE911Truth founder and CEO Richard Gage, AIA, hosted a group amounting to a dozen who traversed the honored halls the day after the conference.
We attempted at least two dozen drop-in visits, with a constituent, for each of these members of Congress:
Former CIA Asset Details Government Attempts to Censor Truth about 9/11, Iraq Wars
SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS!!!
October 16, 2013
October 16, 2013
Published on May 29, 2013
http://americanfreepress.net/?p=10414
Susan Lindauer, 49, was the first woman and the second non-Arab American to be charged with violating the Patriot Act, was arrested on March 11, 2004, by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and charged with "acting as an unregistered agent of a foreign government," accepting $10,000 from the Iraqi Intelligence Service, and accused of meeting with an FBI agent posing as a Libyan.
She was locked up for one year at United States prison Federal Medical Center, Carswell in Texas without trial or hearing, "and threatened with indefinite detention and forcible drugging to shut her up." "During her incarceration she won the right to refuse forced anti-psychotic medication which the United States Department of Justice (DoJ) claimed would render her competent to stand trial." On January 16, 2009, after nearly five years of being under indictment with no conviction or guilty plea, the DoJ dismissed all charges.
Ms. Lindauer discusses her early years, and touches on her memoir, EXTREME PREJUDICE: The Terrifying Story of the Patriot Act and the Cover-Ups of 9/11 & Iraq, in this interesting interview (26:14).
Susan Lindauer, 49, was the first woman and the second non-Arab American to be charged with violating the Patriot Act, was arrested on March 11, 2004, by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and charged with "acting as an unregistered agent of a foreign government," accepting $10,000 from the Iraqi Intelligence Service, and accused of meeting with an FBI agent posing as a Libyan.
She was locked up for one year at United States prison Federal Medical Center, Carswell in Texas without trial or hearing, "and threatened with indefinite detention and forcible drugging to shut her up." "During her incarceration she won the right to refuse forced anti-psychotic medication which the United States Department of Justice (DoJ) claimed would render her competent to stand trial." On January 16, 2009, after nearly five years of being under indictment with no conviction or guilty plea, the DoJ dismissed all charges.
Ms. Lindauer discusses her early years, and touches on her memoir, EXTREME PREJUDICE: The Terrifying Story of the Patriot Act and the Cover-Ups of 9/11 & Iraq, in this interesting interview (26:14).
Search Engine Manipulation. Google and YouTube Suppress Controversial 9/11 Truth?
Global Research
October 5, 2013
This paragraph was followed by a list of interviewees, including four people representing three scholarly research organizations: Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth,[2] the 9/11 Consensus Panel,[3] and The Journal of 9/11 Studies.[4]
October 5, 2013
With polls consistently showing that approximately 50% of Canadians and Americans doubt the official story of 9/11, the feat of keeping the lid on a public debate for over 12 years has been nothing short of miraculous.
This article presents a simple case study showing that this miracle is being performed with the assistance of Google and YouTube search engine interference
On September 8, 2013, the popular Russia Today “Truthseeker” program, with over a million subscribers on YouTube,[1] published a 13-minute newscast entitled “The Truthseeker: 9/11 and Operation Gladio (E23).”
Below the video frame ran the caption:
Bigger than Watergate’: US ‘regular’ meetings with Al-Qaeda’s leader; documented White House ‘false flag terrorism’ moving people ‘like sheep’; the father of Twin Towers victim tell us why he backs this month’s 9/11 campaign on Times Square and around the world; & the protests calendar for September.
The “Truthseeker” video immediately started to gain popularity on YouTube, reaching 131,000 views in the first three days.[5](The history of the viewing statistics may be seen by clicking on the little graphic symbol under the video frame, and to the right)
Truthseeker posted its program to YouTube on Sept. 8. Russia Today tweeted the YouTube link to its 546,000 followers and to the interviewer, Daniel Bushell, that day:
The Truthseeker: 9/11 and operation Gladio (E23) http://youtu.be/vka7Da6e9LY @DanielBushellRT
A MOXNEWS copy of the same newscast was also posted September 8 under the title “Russia Today News Declares 9/11 An Inside Job False Flag Attack!” which in turn started to escalate, with over 80,000 views in the first few days.[6]
Other uploads of the program also appeared, with less traffic, bringing the early viewing total to over a quarter of a million people.
CIA Insider Tells 911 truth.
SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS!!!
Mark Matheny
September 11, 2013
On this Anniversary of the Tragic event of 9/11, we need to remember that a coverup in our own government has taken place and that the 9/11 Commision report is full of error and deception concerning the event.
Here is a CIA whistleblower who is willing to tell what really happened on that eventful day in 2001....
You Tube
Mark Matheny
September 11, 2013
On this Anniversary of the Tragic event of 9/11, we need to remember that a coverup in our own government has taken place and that the 9/11 Commision report is full of error and deception concerning the event.
Here is a CIA whistleblower who is willing to tell what really happened on that eventful day in 2001....
You Tube
The evidence has grown. It would be nearly impossible for "stock" Boeing 767s, to be flown by guys that could barely fly Cessna, so precisely over hundreds of miles from 30,000 feet.
Previous Flight Data Recorder data confirms, The Boeing 767 starts to come apart before 570MPH near sea level. Skilled, Multi-1000 hour 767 Pilots, have trouble replicating these flights, let alone the Pentagon, in state-of-the-art 757-767 flight simulators.
Latest: Check Out the "CIA Insider", and author, herself, Susan Lindauer. Also a writer for Veteran's Today, interviewed on RT News "Breaking the Set" with Abbey Martin, recently:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=...
REALITY CHECK: MORE AMERICANS ARE “RETHINKING” 9/11?
Reality Check
September 11, 2013
Did you know that a 3rd building fell on 9-11? That bill board is today over Times Square. It was placed there through donations to a campaign called Rethink 9/11.
In fact, that group has placed posters and signs across the world, from Australia, to Canada, from San Francisco to right here in New York City.
So what is Rethink 9/11? Wouldn’t only a fringe group of people would still question 9/11? Perhaps not, because today we will tell you about new polling that shows a majority of those polled either question the official 9/11 story or don’t believe it at all. Is that possible?
The first step toward truth, is to be informed.
Here in New York City, today at the site of the 9/11 Memorial, promises to never forget what happened the morning of September 11th, 2001. But never forgetting doesn’t mean that you don’t rethink what you have been told.
Rethink 911 is the first ever global 9/11 anniversary campaign. Sponsored by a coalition of more than 40 organizations, ReThink911 is placing ads in 11 major cities around the world this September 2013.
But what is there to rethink? According to a group called Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, you need to start by rethinking the third building that fell that day.
Building 7, behind me. That rectangular building is the new building 7. It stands a little smaller but in the same place where the original World Trade Center 7 once stood.
To be fair, the collapse of building 7 has long been the claims of conspiracy theorists. In 2008, the National Institute of Standards and Technology or (NIST) released its long-awaited report on the collapse of World Trade Center 7. The lead investigator Shyam Sunder told journalists, “WTC 7 collapsed because of fires fueled by office furnishings. It did not collapse from explosives or from diesel fuel fires.”
But that claim has been taken on by that rapidly growing group known as Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.
How much has privacy eroded since 9/11 attacks?
McClatchy News Service
June 10, 2013
June 10, 2013
Welcome to the new normal, the U.S. national security state that has grown like mad since the 9/11 terrorist attacks nearly a dozen years ago.
Personal privacy has shrunk. Government secrecy has grown. Law enforcement intrusions, both overt and covert, are routine.
And while airport security lines hint at how life changed following Sept. 11, 2001, the full scope and apparent irrevocability of the changes nearly defy description. Street cameras track your movements. Strangers can read your emails. Police can spy on your political gatherings.
Let Us Never Tire of Demanding the Truth of What Happened on September 11, 2001
SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS!!!
Mark Matheny
May 28, 2013
Do you believe the "official" account of what happened on September 11, 2001? The 9/11 Commission's account of what happened is full of holes, and there are several members of the Commission themselves that say the report is a "coverup". See here , here and here. There are respected professors as well that question the official report.
Here is testimony from the Senior Counsel to the 9/11 commission, John Farmer stating:
I don't pretend to know all of the answers to what happened on that dreadful day, but I do know that after that event, our government has passed the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, the Department of Homeland Security, and the National Defense Authorization Act. We have also re-invaded the Middle East. Since that time we have seen the rapid erosion of the Constitution and our freedoms.
We need to demand an honest and full investigation of the events of 9/11, and those responsible need to be brought to justice.
Mark Matheny
May 28, 2013
Do you believe the "official" account of what happened on September 11, 2001? The 9/11 Commission's account of what happened is full of holes, and there are several members of the Commission themselves that say the report is a "coverup". See here , here and here. There are respected professors as well that question the official report.
Here is testimony from the Senior Counsel to the 9/11 commission, John Farmer stating:
“At some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened”. He also said “I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years…. This is not spin. This is not true.” And he said: “It’s almost a culture of concealment, for lack of a better word. There were interviews made at the FAA’s New York center the night of 9/11 and those tapes were destroyed. The CIA tapes of the interrogations were destroyed. The story of 9/11 itself, to put it mildly, was distorted and was completely different from the way things happened”Here are three Documentaries I suggest you watch that question several aspects of the 9/11 "official" narrative given by the 9/11 Commission, backed by the Government and dispersed by the Lame stream media.
Watch 9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out on PBS. See more from CPT12 Presents.
I don't pretend to know all of the answers to what happened on that dreadful day, but I do know that after that event, our government has passed the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, the Department of Homeland Security, and the National Defense Authorization Act. We have also re-invaded the Middle East. Since that time we have seen the rapid erosion of the Constitution and our freedoms.
We need to demand an honest and full investigation of the events of 9/11, and those responsible need to be brought to justice.
Skyscraper Engulfed By Fire, Does Not Collapse
Building refuses to conform to post-9/11 understanding of physics
The new understanding of physics since September 11, 2001, that limited fire damage can cause buildings to implode at almost free fall speed into their own footprints, was confounded once again as a 40-storey skyscraper in Chechnya was engulfed with flames for hours yet did not collapse.
The blaze consumed an apartment building in Grozny, the Chechen capital yesterday evening before it was eventually put out in the early hours of Thursday morning. Fires burned on every single floor of the structure apart from the ground floor.
“According to the emergencies service, the blaze has damaged an area of more than 14,000 square meters. It has completely destroyed the plastic trimming used on the building’s exterior, but the interior remained untouched,” reports RIA Novosti.
The building is the tallest structure in the region outside of Moscow, standing at 145-meters (475-foot). No one was injured or killed in the blaze but dozens had to be evacuated.
Although officials expressed concern at one point that the building could collapse, its core structure was not affected by the huge fire.
Compare the skyscraper in Grozny to the similar-sized WTC Building 7 on 9/11, which was not hit by a plane, suffered comparably limited fire damage, and yet collapsed almost into its own footprint at near free fall speed.
Following 9/11, scientists agreed that instead of accepting the premise that some form of explosives must have been used to bring down WTC 7, physics itself must be wrong and that normal fires can burn hot enough to weaken steel cores, despite the fact that they were barely hot enough to break the vast majority of windows in Building 7.
The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) was forced to invent a “new phenomenon” of “thermal expansion” to explain to collapse of WTC 7, labeling it “the first known instance of fire causing the total collapse of a tall building” in history.
The collapse of Building 7 was so highly anticipated that it was reported before it happened by several news stations, including BBC and CNN. Firefighters, police and first responders were all told to get back from the building because it was about to be brought down.
The Grozny skyscraper is just the latest example of a building refuse to conform to our new post-9/11 understanding of physics, following the example of a similar sized building in Beijing which was also consumed by fire in 2009 but remained standing.
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Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Infowars.com and Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a host for Infowars Nightly News.
Did WTC 7 Owner Larry Silverstein Admit to Ordering the Controlled Demolition of the Building?
AE911truth.org
January 10, 2013
January 10, 2013
During a TV interview with PBS for “America Rebuilds” in 2004, WTC 7 owner and Twin Towers leaseholder Larry Silverstein made the following statement about the destruction of Building 7:
| Regardless of WTC leaseholder Larry Silverstein's statements about the fall of WTC7, the evidence of controlled demolition indicates he should be questioned in a real 9/11 investigation |
"I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."
When Silverstein said "pull it", was he referring to the explosive controlled demolition of the building?
The term “pull” is also used later in the same PBS documentary by a Ground Zero cleanup worker, who said of WTC 6, “It’s not every day you try to pull down an eight-story building with cables.” However,… this procedure is different from using explosives to destroy a much taller building.
In addition, according to research performed by independent 9/11 investigatorJim Hoffman, the term "pull" is not widely used in the demolition industry to refer to the explosive demolition of a building.
If Silverstein wasn't referring to the controlled demolition of WTC 7, what could he have been referring to?
9/11 official story doubts becoming more mainstream
More and more people from all walks of life and all professions seem to be questioning the “official” narrative of what happened on 9/11. Those who are questioning the events of 9/11 may be moving under the radar of the corporate media from being labeled “conspiracy theorists” to legitimate investigators with legitimate questions and concerns.
A good example is Jesse Ventura’s recent appearance on CNN’s Piers Morgan. Ventura, an ex-navy SEAL and former governor of Minnesota who hosts a program on TruTV called “Conspiracy Theory,” appeared on Morgan’s show last week. After discussing 9/11, Morgan tried to dismiss Ventura and said he has “crackpot” ideas. Ventura then asked the audience, “How many people think I make crackpot points?” Only one audience member acknowledged. He then asked, “How many people think I make sensible points?” Almost the entire audience applauded him. See video here. That segment can be found at 32:10.
Another good example is Colorado PBS’s airing of a documentary film that was created by Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth. It is the first time a major news network has aired anything like it. The documentary, entitled “9/11: Explosive Evidence – Experts Speak Out,” features dozens of architects and engineers who unequivocally state that the twin towers, and WTC 7 which was not hit by a plane, were brought down by controlled demolition. (You can watch the full-length film in the video to the left for a limited time before it is only available for purchase on DVD).
If the official story that fires brought the buildings down is to be believed, then 9/11 was an architectural and engineering disaster that should have led to an urgent and exhaustive inquiry, along with suggestions for improvements and upgrades for other buildings of the same construction.
The film has a section near the end in which psychologists explain why the media and many of the public are so reluctant to question the official story. The reasons come down to trauma, belief in authority and cognitive dissonance. People simply do not want to believe anything that contradicts their “world view” and their faith in the authorities that provide their security. Confronted with contradictory evidence, people resort to denial as a defense mechanism.
Pentagon Employee Says Plane Did Not Crash into Building - 911 Inside Job
SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS!!!
Mark Matheny
September 25, 2012
There has always been the question of what exactly hit the Pentagon on September 11th, 2001. Was it a plane as the official story proclaims, or something else?
Many believe it may have been a missile launched at the Pentagon which caused the damage on that fateful day.
Here is the testimony from a Pentagon employee who verifies that as she exited the building immediately after the blast, she did not see any traces or evidence of a plane that had struck the building.
There definitely needs to be a more transparent and honest investigation of the events of 9/11.
Mark Matheny
September 25, 2012
There has always been the question of what exactly hit the Pentagon on September 11th, 2001. Was it a plane as the official story proclaims, or something else?
Many believe it may have been a missile launched at the Pentagon which caused the damage on that fateful day.
Here is the testimony from a Pentagon employee who verifies that as she exited the building immediately after the blast, she did not see any traces or evidence of a plane that had struck the building.
There definitely needs to be a more transparent and honest investigation of the events of 9/11.
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